{"id":178,"date":"2024-05-04T09:45:45","date_gmt":"2024-05-04T09:45:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wordpress.etypegoogle10.com\/?p=178"},"modified":"2024-05-04T09:45:45","modified_gmt":"2024-05-04T09:45:45","slug":"lone-star-listens-john-r-erickson","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/wordpress.etypegoogle10.com\/?p=178","title":{"rendered":"Lone Star Listens: John R. Erickson"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"articleHeader\">&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div id=\"u24698-163\">\n<p id=\"u24698-11\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">John R. Erickson has provided life lessons and laughter <span id=\"u24698-8\">for a generation of Texas children\u2014and adults\u2014 through the antics and insights of his character Hank the Cowdog. Erickson\u2019s long-running series of children&#8217;s books (illustrated by <\/span><span id=\"u24698-9\">Gerald L. Holmes<\/span><span id=\"u24698-10\">) follows canine Hank, self-appointed &#8220;Head of Ranch Security.&#8221; In each book Hank and other characters must deal with events, issues, and mysteries that occur at their Texas Panhandle home, the M-Cross Ranch. Hank, and his pals have been a part of the life of Texas schoolchildren for more than four decades.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-17\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">Months ago, when we were planning our editorial calendar for the year, we knew there was one author that we hoped to interview for our children\u2019s literature special section in the summer. But we tried to think how to convey the wit that Erickson has always displayed in Hank\u2019s musings, book after book. We finally came up with the idea to \u201cinterview Hank.\u201d Erickson was a good sport, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lonestarliterary.com\/hank-the-cowdog-060715.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Hank \u201ctold all\u201d here in last week\u2019s issue via an email interview.<\/a><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-20\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">This week, John Erickson graciously agreed to be interviewed by email as well.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-25\"><strong><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\"><span id=\"u24698-23\">LONE STAR LITERARY LIFE: <\/span>John, when did you know you wanted to be a writer?<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-29\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\"><strong>JOHN R. ERICKSON:<\/strong> I didn\u2019t do any writing until I was a senior in high school, when I discovered that I could write poetry. In college, I did well in courses that required essays and during my second year at Harvard Divinity School, I took a fiction writing course in the Yard. I was married then and started writing every day. Kris brought discipline and meaning into my life. So I guess the answer is that in 1967, I started thinking seriously about being a writer, even though I knew it wasn\u2019t an easy thing to do.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-33\"><strong><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">You were a pioneer in self-publishing. What made you read the tea leaves and decide you could launch your own publishing company?<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-36\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">I wasn\u2019t exactly reading tea leaves. I wanted to follow the Hemingway model: find a New York publisher, get a big advance, go to cocktail parties, and be a famous author. That didn\u2019t work out. For fifteen years I wrote four hours a day and sent out manuscripts. I attended writers\u2019 conferences and talked to editors. Nothing worked. Either I didn\u2019t know what the editors were looking for, or I knew didn\u2019t want to do it.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-39\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">When Kris and I started Maverick Books in 1982, it was an act of desperation. We had to try something different or quit. We felt there were other people in our region who were tired of bleak, depressing books that someone called \u201cgreat literature.\u201d And we were foolish enough to think that we could succeed with our own publishing company\u2014in a town that didn\u2019t even have a bookstore.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-42\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">I guess we\u2019ve done pretty well. The Hank series has sold more than 8.5 million copies, and we control all the movie and subsidiary rights.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-46\"><strong><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">How did you and your long-time illustrator, Gerald L. Holmes, come to work together?<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-51\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">I met Gerald through a mutual friend, photographer Bill Ellzey, in 1977. I was working as a cowboy in Oklahoma and Gerald worked in a feedlot near Perryton. We were both as poor as snowbirds. He showed me some of his pen and ink drawings, and I knew I wanted to work with him. He grew up on a ranch near Waurika, Oklahoma, and he sure knew how to put expression on the face of a dog or cowboy. He started illustrating some of my magazine articles, then when I wrote the first Hank book, he was my first choice as illustrator. We\u2019ve worked together on the Hank books for thirty-three years, and he has never missed a deadline.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-55\"><strong><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">How has publishing changed since you started?<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-58\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">In 1982, the main problems were getting something out in front of the public and then figuring out how to sell it. Today, it is much easier to solve the mechanical problems of self-publishing and to reach an audience, but the fact that it\u2019s easier creates another problem: how can you be heard above all the noise? The mass of information that is available today, through film, television, books, magazines, newspapers, and the Internet is really intimidating.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-61\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">And, of course, the problem of selling your work remains, making a living with your writing. It may even be more difficult today because so much of Internet content is free. Newspapers, magazines, publishers, and book sellers are facing unique and difficult times, and so are the writers who have depended on them as a source of income. Google and Facebook are getting fabulously rich, selling ads. Writers are pecking for seeds.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-65\"><strong><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">You and your wife have three children. Are any of them writers or involved in your publishing ventures?<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-68\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">We encouraged our children (Scot, Ashley, and Mark) to write good letters and grammatical English, but never pushed for anything beyond that. Mark has bloomed into an excellent writer, and for several years we have been working together on movie and television scripts for the Hank material. It\u2019s helpful that he also has a law degree.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-72\"><strong><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">What is your current writing process like?<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-75\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">My writing process hasn\u2019t changed much since 1967. I get up early, usually around 5:30, and walk to my office, which has always been separated from the house. I\u2019ve written in a barn, a garage, a bunkhouse, and a tool shed. Now I have a small but fairly nice office that is walking distance from our home.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-78\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">I write for no more than four and a half hours. For me, that\u2019s a day\u2019s work. Writing is an intense discipline, and after four and a half hours, I\u2019m mentally tired. I spend the rest of the day doing physical work on our ranch, answering mail, and reading. For me, it has always been important to balance writing with physical work that is connected to something real: earth, grass, sweat, animals, and family.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-82\"><strong><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">What advice would you have for aspiring authors?<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-85\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">When I speak to writers, I often advise them to marry for money. That is a funny way of saying that artistic people (artists, actors, musicians, and writers) are always faced with the problem of how to make a living from their work. We spend all our time learning a craft, and most of us are short on business skills.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-88\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">I get a lot of letters and emails from young and aspiring writers, and several years ago I took the time to write a book that tells about my experiences and gives my best advice to young writers. It\u2019s called <em>Story Craft<\/em>. Here are some of the points I made in the book.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-91\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">\u2022 The first ingredient in good writing is content, not style. Write what you know and love, and use sentences that you can diagram.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-93\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">\u2022 Discipline yourself to write every day, even if it\u2019s just for thirty minutes. Writers write. They don\u2019t talk about it in a bar, take courses, or read books. They develop professional habits and learn to write by writing.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-95\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">\u2022 Seek beauty and order in human experience, and nourish the human soul with your writing. If art can\u2019t make people better, wiser, or happier, what\u2019s the point?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-97\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">\u2022 Have a marketable skill that can sustain you while you\u2019re learning the craft of writing. I worked as a cowboy, bartender, and handyman for fifteen years.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-99\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">\u2022 Don\u2019t write anything that would shame your mother. I know that sounds corny, but it\u2019s a simple way of saying that we belong to a larger community and tradition. Writing involves more than your freedom to say anything that comes to your mind. Our writing ought to make the reader better than he was before. That\u2019s a piece of wisdom mothers understand by instinct, and entertainment companies sometimes ignore.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-103\"><strong><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">Which Texas authors did you read growing up? Which Texas authors do you enjoy reading now?<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-108\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">I didn\u2019t enjoy reading when I was young. I was soaked in the <em>King James Bible<\/em> and loved Mark Twain, but spent most of my youth climbing trees, playing outside, and working on ranches. I didn\u2019t discover Texas writers until I had lived in cities for eight years and returned to Texas.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-115\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">At that point, I made a serious effort to catch up: J. Frank Dobie, J. Evetts Haley, Larry King, Owen White, Ben Green, Al Dewlen, A. C. Greene, and a number of others. I read Larry McMurty\u2019s early novels and his book of essays.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-122\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">The two Texas authors who influenced me most were Elmer Kelton and John Graves. Both were \u201cregional\u201d authors who were deeply attached to a place. They wrote exceptionally well and found an audience beyond their region. I was a friend to both and corresponded with them over the years.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-129\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">Today, I don\u2019t read many Texas authors, although I admire the work of S. J. Dahlstrom and Christian Wiman, both from West Texas.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-132\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">I\u2019ve always been a slow reader and I\u2019m always behind. I don\u2019t consider myself well-read in any subject. My reading is eccentric and follows my curiosity, which recently has included English philosopher Roger Scruton, theologian Nancy Pearcey, physicist Paul Davies, ex\u2013CIA agent Robert Baer, and a biography of J. S. Bach. I have a long-standing fascination with ancient Egypt, classical music, range management, quantum physics, and archeology in the Texas Panhandle. It\u2019s an odd mix.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-136\"><strong><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">You do the voiceover for all of the Hank the Cowdog audio books. Would you recommend that process to other authors?<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-139\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">Not necessarily. From the start, the prose in my Hank books copied the storytelling techniques of ranchers and cowboys, which means it was heavily influenced by an oral tradition. It was a natural and easy step to move from reading my stories aloud to audiences in Perryton, to recording them in a studio in Amarillo. The Hank audios have the feel of the radio programs I listened to in the fifties: character voices, background music, and sound effects.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-142\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">I had no training or certificate that said I was qualified to do it. I\u2019ve never taken an acting course and consider myself an amateur, even though I\u2019ve been doing it for thirty-three years. I got the job because I work cheap and make deadlines. It\u2019s the kind of thing you can do when you\u2019re paying the bills and nobody in a lofty position is saying, \u201cYou can\u2019t do that.\u201d<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-147\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">Stories that were not meant to be read aloud might not adapt well to the audio medium. I love the work of C. S. Lewis, but the audiobook versions of his stories leave me comatose. I think it\u2019s best to meet Lewis, and probably a lot of other writers, through the printed word.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-151\"><strong><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">Last question: What continues to inspire you to write after 65 Hank books?<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-154\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">I don\u2019t think in terms of inspiration. I go to my office every morning, whether I\u2019m inspired or not, and pull my plow like a mule. For me, the discipline takes the place of inspiration. Some days, it\u2019s great fun. Some days it\u2019s not.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-157\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">Once I get rolling with a Hank book, I\u2019m having a grand old time. I laugh out loud and am anxious to get back to it the next morning. I am endlessly fascinated by Hank\u2019s character, and I suppose by dogs in general\u2014the extraordinary relationship that has bound dogs and humans together for at least ten thousand years. As I once wrote, \u201cOnly the Maker of galaxies would have thought to give mankind such a marvelous gift as a dog.\u201d<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p id=\"u24698-160\"><span style=\"font-size:16px;\"><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">* * * * *<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>An interview with author John R. 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