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Steve, over the course of a long literary career you\u2019ve published with houses of all types. I\u2019d like to ask you more about some of your bestsellers and television projects in a minute, but since we\u2019re focusing this week on the fall lists of university presses, I wonder if you\u2019d tell us a bit about your experience with that segment of publishing.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n <\/p>\n I\u2019ve published three books\u2014all of them essay collections\u2014with the University of Texas Press, and am working on a fourth book for them, which will be an I-hope-not-too-massive history of Texas. The three previous books were made up of material that had been previously published in magazines, but the Texas book is a \u201creal\u201d book, a major project that will be original work from start to finish. It wasn\u2019t my idea to write this book. David Hamrick, the director of UT Press, called me up one day and asked if I might be interested. I immediately said no, thinking of all the ground I would have to cover\u2014roughly five hundred years of Texas history from Cabeza de Vaca to Ted Cruz. But Dave\u2019s enthusiasm and vision were contagious, and even as I was telling him no there was a busy little part of my brain that kept whispering yes.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n <\/p>\n What would you say is the value of university press publishing, especially in Texas?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n <\/p>\n The Texas book I\u2019m working on might be regarded as a bit of an outlier to the typical university press publication. It\u2019s meant to be a big, sweeping, highly readable general interest story. What\u2019s great about UT Press, in particular, is the ambition they have to seek out a mainstream while still honoring the great tradition of publishing books that exist for their own sake, for the worthy knowledge they contain.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n <\/p>\n I\u2019ve noticed that most of the books I\u2019ve been consulting for research on my Texas project were published by university presses. Many are highly specialized\u2014day-by-day accounts of early Spanish expeditions into Texas, social histories of Tejano life in San Antonio, biographies of relatively obscure historical figures, annotated diaries of the Runaway Scrape or life on a West Texas ranch. Without this crucial source material it would be impossible for me to write this book. So I\u2019d say the value of university press publishing is fundamental not just to my work but to scholarship in general.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n <\/p>\n In your view, how does the role of university presses differ from that of commercial or mainstream publishers?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n <\/p>\n They\u2019re not always completely different. There are university press titles that could be published by commercial publishers, and vice versa. Bu<\/span><\/span><\/span>t in general it seems to me that university presses have a freer hand when it comes to taking on books in which there is self-evident value but no reasonable hope of significant sales. Also, they\u2019re smaller operations, which can be an advantage for a new writer for whom a faraway New York publisher can seem sort of intimidating. (Although I\u2019m lucky in that both my New York publisher, Alfred A. Knopf, and the University of Texas Press have the same sort of family feel.)<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n <\/p>\n You\u2019ve written for broadcast as well as print, and produced works of fiction and nonfiction. Among these, is there one achievement you feel more strongly about\u2014or more proud of?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n <\/p>\n To me, there\u2019s nothing quite like the feeling of holding in your hands a book that you\u2019ve written. I\u2019ve written a lot of movies, and seen them projected on big screens in front of packed theaters, or broadcast on television to\u2014in one case\u201423 million viewers in one night. But I\u2019d give all that excitement up for the quiet moment when a padded envelope arrives from my publisher with the first copy of my new book. That said, I\u2019ve found the genres I\u2019ve worked in\u2014magazine articles and essays, screenplays, novels, nonfiction books\u2014to be mutually reinforcing. I\u2019ve learned a lot about story structure from writing movies that has paid dividends in terms of putting together a novel, and from writing articles on every sort of subject I\u2019ve been able to travel quite a bit and learn more about the world than I ever could have as a stay-at-home novelist.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n <\/p>\n Like many great Texas writers, you began your career as a journalist. How did your start as a magazine writer and editor inform your later writing life?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n <\/p>\n I didn\u2019t set out to be a journalist. My ambition was always to be a novelist, but I had no idea how to go about it. I was mowing yards for a living right after college when it occurred to me that maybe I could make a little money and get into print somehow if I tried to write a magazine article. I managed somehow to sell a piece to Rolling Stone<\/em> for $150, which pretty much covered all my living expenses for a month or so back in the long-gone days of affordable Austin. Fortunately for me, this was in the early 1970s when Texas Monthly<\/em> was just starting up, so I was able to parlay my exaggerated street cred as a Rolling Stone<\/em> writer into what has turned out to be a four-decade association with Texas Monthly.<\/em> Being a magazine writer opened up the world to me, opened up my mind, and changed my image of myself. It flipped a switch in my personality from passive to active. I was no longer a meek literary stylist, I was a hard-charging professional information-getter. And because I was always on a deadline, I learned that writing could be sort of deconsecrated and still remain alive and supple. I learned to cut, to rethink, to reshape, to do more reporting after I thought I was through, to tell the story without imposing myself upon it.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n <\/p>\n How did your break into book publishing come about?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n <\/p>\n Well, another benefit about being a magazine writer was the fact that I was always finding myself in the middle of situations that could be the raw material for a novel. One of the early stories I did for Texas Monthly<\/em> was an account of a marine park in Galveston that was capturing dolphins for use in its trained dolphin show. I went along on the hunt and was deeply unsettled by what I saw. I sat on the deck of the capture boat helplessly trying to comfort a young dolphin had just been wrestled out of the water and was lying there tweeting in panic and bewilderment. That experience went directly into my first novel, Aransas<\/em>, which is about a dolphin trainer in Port Aransas. (And which was recently reissued, by the way, by none other than the University of Texas Press.)<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n <\/p>\n Is there another novel\u2014along the lines of 2011\u2019s Remembering Ben Clayton<\/em>\u2014in the works right now?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n <\/p>\n There\u2019s one already done, a novel called A Friend of Mr. Lincoln<\/em> that will be published in February. It\u2019s about Abraham Lincoln\u2019s early life as a lawyer and state legislator in Springfield, Illinois in the 1830s and 1840s.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n <\/p>\n Are there other Texas subjects you\u2019ve always wanted to write about?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n <\/p>\n Almost every day, as I\u2019m writing this Texas history book, I come across stuff that I\u2019d love to turn into a novel. I think, for instance, that there\u2019s a great potential novel about the Talon family, who sailed to Texas with La Salle and endured unbelievable hardships on the Texas coast. I\u2019d love to write novels about the war between the Lipan Apaches and the Comanches, or about the pecan shellers\u2019 strike in San Antonio, or about Santa Anna, or about the early days of oil exploration in boom towns like Ranger. Fortunately I get to write about all that stuff in a non-fiction way, but that doesn\u2019t quite shut down my novelist\u2019s instinct.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n <\/p>\n Someone who\u2019s researched and described as much of the Lone Star State as you have surely has a favorite Texas meal. Can you clue us in what that might be?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n <\/p>\n Besides the LuAnn Platter at Luby\u2019s, you mean? Hmmm, let me think. Okay, I\u2019ve got it: fried shrimp, dockside at Port Aransas.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n <\/p>\n * * * * *<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n <\/p>\n Praise for Stephen Harrigan\u2019s The Eye of the Mammoth<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n \u201cThis exquisite book will make you see the world anew. It is a delight to wander the world with Stephen Harrigan, experiencing through him the vastness of Big Bend, the mysteries of the mummified Ice Man, the absurdities (and successes!) of his Hollywood career. Harrigan is a man of meticulous observation and wit, and The Eye of the Mammoth<\/em> abundantly provides readers with those pops of pleasure one gets from the perfectly turned phrase. This book amply illustrates that Stephen Harrigan is a national treasure.\u201d \u2014Emily Yoffe, Slate columnist and author of What the Dog Did<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n <\/p>\n \u201cThe Eye of the Mammoth<\/em> is Stephen Harrigan at his best, and Harrigan at his best is one of the great pleasures available to readers of the contemporary essay. Relaxed and conversational in tone, yet always substantive and enlightening, he demonstrates absolute mastery of both the essay form and his fascinating subject matter.\u201d \u2014Daniel Okrent, author of Last Call: The Rise and Fall of Prohibition<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n <\/p>\n Praise for Stephen Harrigan\u2019s The Gates of the Alamo<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n “Following the examples of novelists like Cormac McCarthy and Larry McMurtry . . . a genuinely moving epic and, paradoxically, yet another unforgettable Alamo.\u201d <\/p>\n \u201cA time and a place, a vanished world in which gallant death and honor still held tangible appeal, while merciless slaughter was more likely the rule, are evoked with great skill.\u201d \u2014New York Times Book Review<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n <\/p>\n \u201cRiveting . . . The strength of Harrigan’s extraordinarily authentic novel is in its superior storytelling.\u201d \u2014Washington Post<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n <\/p>\n \u201cIn a large, lush book [Harrigan] eloquently and dramatically recasts the myth that was born on March 6th 1836. . . . [His] gift to us is an artful, intelligent novel that makes the hard work of memory terrifically worthwhile.” \u2014Boston Globe<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n <\/p>\n \u201cHarrigan retells the story of the Alamo with consummate skill, weaving a wealth of historical detail into a tight, moving human drama. . . .[He] has crafted a compulsively readable historical drama on a grand scale, peopled with highly believable frontier personalities–Mexican as well as American–and suffused with period authenticity.\u201d \u2014Publishers Weekly <\/em>(starred review)<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n <\/p>\n \u201cHarrigan builds slowly and surely toward the story’s inevitable, impressive climax, examining in thrilling detail his several protagonists’ quests for both freedom and fulfillment. . . . An original work of high distinction indeed: as fine a historical novel as any within recent memory, and far and away Harrigan’s best book yet.\u201d \u2014Kirkus Reviews<\/em> (starred)<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n <\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" Interview with author & historian Stephen Harrigan<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":287,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[229,53,30,8],"class_list":["post-288","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-authorinterview","tag-interview","tag-lonestarlistens","tag-lonestarliterarycom"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/wordpress.etypegoogle10.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/288","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/wordpress.etypegoogle10.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/wordpress.etypegoogle10.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wordpress.etypegoogle10.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wordpress.etypegoogle10.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=288"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/wordpress.etypegoogle10.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/288\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wordpress.etypegoogle10.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/287"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/wordpress.etypegoogle10.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=288"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wordpress.etypegoogle10.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=288"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wordpress.etypegoogle10.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=288"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}
\n\u2014Newsweek<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n